From ralphmct at omantel.net.om Sun Nov 9 09:16:26 2008 From: ralphmct at omantel.net.om (Ralph) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:16:26 +0400 Subject: [Oman-L] Christopher Southcombe's request 4 information Message-ID: <7C86D060274F46AAAEC3E38672A825EA@yourzf85y41hap> I note enquiries about Al Sultana trip to the USA. Contempory American newspaper reports of her arrival in New York City refer to her on Thursday, Apri 30th, 1840 , as a "bark" twice which seems quite a specific description.Possibly the 3 masted ship in the background seascape of Mooney's portrait of Ahmed bin Na?man was intended to represent Sultana but there is no corroberating evidence. .M.Guillain (Paris 1856), II,241. states Sultanah was built in Bombay, but susequently refitting did take place at Matrah.This suggest to me that she made her 87 day voyage rigged as a "bark". Regards Abdulrauf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oman.org/pipermail/oman-l/attachments/20081109/6e285260/attachment.html From d.werbeck at juno.com Mon Nov 10 16:23:23 2008 From: d.werbeck at juno.com (d.werbeck at juno.com) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:23:23 -0800 Subject: [Oman-L] Christopher Southcombe's request 4 information Message-ID: <20081110.083259.1384.14.D.Werbeck@juno.com> Dear Sir Somehow I received an e-mail from you and have not a clue to what or why it was sent to me. I am looking for someone to finance a photo trip to Oman and to take photos of what exists in the Bedu desert areas...as Sir Wilfred Thesiger did many decades ago... AA culture...evaporating...and in need to be brought forth. I suggest Pitts River Museum ...Wilfred Thesiger... to see what I mean. he was a friend of the past Sultan Oman. Thank you DCW On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:16:26 +0400 "Ralph" writes: I note enquiries about Al Sultana trip to the USA. Contempory American newspaper reports of her arrival in New York City refer to her on Thursday, Apri 30th, 1840 , as a "bark" twice which seems quite a specific description.Possibly the 3 masted ship in the background seascape of Mooney's portrait of Ahmed bin Na?man was intended to represent Sultana but there is no corroberating evidence. .M.Guillain (Paris 1856), II,241. states Sultanah was built in Bombay, but susequently refitting did take place at Matrah.This suggest to me that she made her 87 day voyage rigged as a "bark". Regards Abdulrauf ____________________________________________________________ Find the apartment of your dreams by clicking here now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3miighRAtSpT1TzPlTrcLY9ZJ2F63cbOLeh7a79MLL6QlSbO/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oman.org/pipermail/oman-l/attachments/20081110/f76552db/attachment.html From aelkabi at industry.gov.bh Thu Nov 27 09:09:58 2008 From: aelkabi at industry.gov.bh (Abdul Aziz Ali Elkabi) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:09:58 +0300 Subject: [Oman-L] Ahmed Bin Na'umann's Voyage to US in "Al Sultanah" in Message-ID: <202098B7AFA3A34E8BCB962B27876158026DE2@MOINDMAIL01.industry.gov.bh> My name is Abulaziz Alkaabi. My current job is Director of Industrial development in the Kingdom of Bahrain. I am interested in finding out how Ahmad ben Naaman, a merchant from Basra ended up being a special envoy to Sultan Saeed, Did he reside in Oman? Is he related to the BaniKaab tribe who ruled Al Muhamarra and Ahwaz? He carries the same family name which makes me more curious. Aziz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oman.org/pipermail/oman-l/attachments/20081127/c7432047/attachment.html From ralphmct at omantel.net.om Sat Nov 29 04:28:24 2008 From: ralphmct at omantel.net.om (Ralph) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:28:24 +0400 Subject: [Oman-L] AlSultanah voyage to USA. Ahmed bin Namaan Sultan's envoy. Message-ID: <4EFC2D9340894515977A7C9FD86833B6@yourzf85y41hap> For kind ttention of Abdul Aziz Ali Elkabi "Ahmed, or to cite his full name, AL HAJ Ahmed bin Na aman bin Muhain bin Abdullah al-Bahrani was born in 1784 in Basra, where he recieved a rudimentary ,classical Islamic education. Patrilineally, he was Arab, descended from the renowned Bani Ka'ab (pronounced Cha'ab) tribe of the Persian Gulf littoral. His mother was Persian. Ahmed's early history is obscure. He is said to have started as a lowly cabin boy, and, by dint of sheer ability made his way upward. Ample evidence exists attestng to his Muslim piety, though his detractors sometimes attributed Sabean origins to him. At a later date they were to pillory him with the sobriquet Wajhain, or two faces." Hope this helps Regards Ralph (ralphmct at omantel.net.om ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oman.org/pipermail/oman-l/attachments/20081129/fb820d93/attachment.html From jduester at oman.org Sat Nov 29 14:39:32 2008 From: jduester at oman.org (Joachim Duester) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:39:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oman-L] AlSultanah voyage to USA. Ahmed bin Namaan Sultan's envoy. Message-ID: <112709.69742.qm@web37901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If I may add to what Ralph wrote below: for more information on the Sultana voyage, have a look at the following article: Eilts, Hermann Frederick, 1922-2006: "Ahmad bin Na'aman's Mission to the United States in 1840: the voyage of al-Sultanah to New York City"; in: Essex Institute Historical Collections, Vol. 98, No. 4 (October 1962), pp. 219-277 (also exists as a reprint by PDO Petroleum Development Oman, Muscat, done around 1974). The envoy, al-Hajj Ahmad bin Na'aman bin Muhsin bin Abdallah al-Ka'abi, was Sayyid Said bin Sultan's personal secretary. It seems Sayyid Sa'id wanted to entrust a relative with the mission, but the relative declined. I must admit that it had completely escaped my notice that Ahmad bin Na'aman hailed from Basrah. I more or less associated the nisba "al-Ka'abi" with the only Bani Ka'ab I know, i.e. a prominent Omani tribe with headquarters in Mahadha (north of al-Buraimi). They also occur in other towns of Oman, both in the sultanate and the emirates. Of course, there may be connections between this tribe and the Ka'aban of Baharin/Qatar and Arabistan. Best wishes, Joachim --- On Sat, 11/29/08, Ralph wrote: From: Ralph Subject: [Oman-L] AlSultanah voyage to USA. Ahmed bin Namaan Sultan's envoy. To: oman-l at oman.org Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 5:28 AM For kind ttention of Abdul Aziz Ali Elkabi "Ahmed, or to cite his full name, AL HAJ Ahmed bin Na aman bin Muhain bin Abdullah al-Bahrani was born in 1784 in Basra, where he recieved a rudimentary, classical Islamic education. Patrilineally, he was Arab, descended from the renowned Bani Ka'ab (pronounced Cha'ab) tribe of the Persian Gulf littoral. His mother was Persian. Ahmed's early history is obscure. He is said to have started as a lowly cabin boy, and, by dint of sheer ability made his way upward. Ample evidence exists attestng to his Muslim piety, though his detractors sometimes attributed Sabean origins to him. At a later date they were to pillory him with the sobriquet Wajhain, or two faces." Hope this helps Regards Ralph From aalnaamani at hotmail.com Sat Nov 29 14:49:05 2008 From: aalnaamani at hotmail.com (Dr.Aziz Alnamani) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:49:05 +0000 Subject: [Oman-L] AlSultanah voyage to USA. Ahmed bin Namaan Sultan's envoy. In-Reply-To: <4EFC2D9340894515977A7C9FD86833B6@yourzf85y41hap> References: <4EFC2D9340894515977A7C9FD86833B6@yourzf85y41hap> Message-ID: mmm interesting !!! this is the first time i know that he was not Omani so does that mean the sultana also was not from Oman ? Albasra has very strange story with Omanis !!! Jabir bin Zaid the founder of Abadhi sect was also from Al basra Thanks From: ralphmct at omantel.net.omTo: oman-l at oman.orgDate: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:28:24 +0400Subject: [Oman-L] AlSultanah voyage to USA. Ahmed bin Namaan Sultan's envoy. For kind ttention of Abdul Aziz Ali Elkabi "Ahmed, or to cite his full name, AL HAJ Ahmed bin Na aman bin Muhain bin Abdullah al-Bahrani was born in 1784 in Basra, where he recieved a rudimentary ,classical Islamic education. Patrilineally, he was Arab, descended from the renowned Bani Ka'ab (pronounced Cha'ab) tribe of the Persian Gulf littoral. His mother was Persian. Ahmed's early history is obscure. He is said to have started as a lowly cabin boy, and, by dint of sheer ability made his way upward. Ample evidence exists attestng to his Muslim piety, though his detractors sometimes attributed Sabean origins to him. At a later date they were to pillory him with the sobriquet Wajhain, or two faces." Hope this helps Regards Ralph (ralphmct at omantel.net.om ) _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oman.org/pipermail/oman-l/attachments/20081129/12137f2e/attachment.htm From ralphmct at omantel.net.om Sun Nov 30 10:30:28 2008 From: ralphmct at omantel.net.om (Ralph) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:30:28 +0400 Subject: [Oman-L] Ahmed Bin NA'amaman's Mission to the USA in 1840 Message-ID: <9F9E94C71E044F4CA48F96C8F8F12FAC@yourzf85y41hap> FOR KIND ATTENTION Mr ABDUL AZIZ AL KAABI.Dear Abdulaziz, further to my initial response to your questions about Ahmed : he continued in Sayyid Saids' service after the Al Sultanah voyage to America.For him, his visit to the USA marked the apogee of his career.In Muscat and Zanzibar, he was but a scribe of Sayyid Said; in the USA he had been a dignitary in his own right. He savoured the experience, and stories of his American adventure lost nothing in the telling. As British influence in Zanzibar waxed, Ahmed came to be regarded as the leader of what British Consul Hamerton called "the American Party". Writing in February, 1842, Hamerton charged, "......the mode of communication between the Imaum and the American Consul Waters is through the interpretation of a Writer of the Imaum's, called Ahmed bin Noman, a fellow who went to America in the Imaum's ship Sultanah and who leads all hands to believe we ( the British) are a very inferior people to the Americans."The American Party, Hamerton believed, deliberately sought to persuade Sayyid Said to take a strong anti-British stand by apprising him of every British reverse, such as Afghanistan, etc. On Sayyid Said's death, the new ruler, Sayyid Majid, retained Ahmed as private secretary. In 1858 he retired from official service. He died in 1869. A simple headstone, inscribed with his name and dates, marks his final resting place in Zanzibar cemetery.The original portrait of Ahmed, a three-quarter length painting, 42 by 36 inches hangs in the offices of the Art Commission in New York City Hall. 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